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    LoL Guide Coaching a Silver, Gold and Diamond ADC player - Wave control, Macro, Laning etc. - Challenger Coach

    LoL Guide Coaching a Silver, Gold and Diamond ADC player - Wave control, Macro, Laning etc. - Challenger Coach


    Coaching a Silver, Gold and Diamond ADC player - Wave control, Macro, Laning etc. - Challenger Coach

    Posted: 27 Apr 2020 05:08 AM PDT

    Hey guys, it's SimbaADC here! I made this video from three coaching sessions: A Silver Caitlyn, Gold Jinx, and Diamond Sivir. In the video I go in depth on concepts such as wave management, map awareness, macro and micro play and more. I hope you guys enjoy the video and find it useful! <3

    Link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5_KcZ4mgKE

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    How to Effectively Play the Support Role

    Posted: 27 Apr 2020 08:24 AM PDT

    Hey y'all, its Chicken Ponyo here!

    Some of you may recognize me from comments on support-related posts that are extremely long and in depth (sorry not sorry), and this is gonna be a really long post as is my nature when it come to this sort of thing (TLDR at the end, though it probably wont be super good cuz i dont do the whole "posting" thing). I'm not going to click-bait the title with something like "HOW TO CLIMB IN SUPPORT 2020" or anything, because frankly knowledge is a tool, not a weapon. Before we get into it, a few of my credentials, since yall likely havent seen me in game as im obviously not a pro or a streamer. I'm a Plat 1 support main thats been playing since S3, and have been Plat for 2 years now, having been gold the year prior. I used to play like, once every 2 weeks, and now i play every single day after work, and I dedicate my time to coaching players from Unranked all the way up to high Diamond (Yes i know im plat. Last season I took 3 separate accounts to Gold playing support only with no duo, one account to plat with no duo. Im currently playing soloqueue right now with a friend who is a bronze/silver ADC main to freshen my perspective on low elo as of right now, since everything in the game has changed reccently. About the coaching, no me being in plat does not mean that people in Diamond cant learn from me, it just means that im hardstuck with a low mechanical skillset and a fair bit of knowledge lol. Any-hoots, onto the tips and such. These arent in any particular order, as im ADHD as fuck and i just put what comes to mind as it comes before i forget it. May the odds ever be in your favor.

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    1. Identify your elo, and the weaknesses of it. This is definitely my biggest point, but its because its something people dont actively think about. This is something a lot of people complain about, but dont really know they are complaining about it. You'll hear it when someone says "You cant play Leona in Bronze because you go in and you dont get follow up". Well yes, but no. Part of it is likely your positioning, misunderstanding of power spikes, lane state, etc., but the other part is also yeah, Bronze is inconsistent when it comes to following up on engage, whether its because they cant multitask as well yet, arent paying attention to your positioning, or are simply playing Terraria on their other monitor and treating LoL like its a Farming Simulator tourney. This is why champions like Blitzcrank and Nautilus are the kings of low elo (Naut is just broken rn and is the king of support, but even if he gets nerfed, he will still be very good in low elo). Instead of going to the enemy, they bring the enemy to you, which takes your teammates inability to follow up out of the equation. This same weakness applies up through low Gold usually. obviously there are people in Bronze that play adc and know when to follow up, and thats great. But you wont always get them, so you have to prepare for that. I'll list the main weaknesses of your team in the lower elos that I've noticed below, as well as champions that help mitigate them. This isnt saying that you cant strengthen your wave management knowledge in silver, its just that vision control isnt your weakness (hopefully) in plat, and its probably the next biggest thing to focus on prefecting.
    • Iron/Bronze: Inability to follow up on aggression, as well as being too aggressive. I mentioned Blitz/Naut already, but champions like Soraka, Sona, and Nami are excellent in these elos too, as they can heal your teammates and provide peel, essentially forgiving them for their positioning mistakes and over-aggression.
    • Silver/Low Gold: Vision control and Minimap Awareness. Usually at this point, your adc is aware of when youre going in and when to follow up, and each teams jungler has a fairly decent idea of objective control. Its now your job to control the vision around the bottom side of the map through deep wards, control wards, and watching your minimap to help your team. Start trying to shot call for dragons and rift if you know the enemy jungler is on the other side of the map as the objective and your jungler is healthy. Especially if they can solo the obj.
    • High Gold: Positioning and Mechanics. Focus on your positioning in teamfights and ensuring that the vision youve set up allows you to find the best possible place to be to do your job, whether its peel for your adc, find a flank on the enemy mid/adc, or to provide consistent poke while you seige. Generally becoming more adept on your champion is where this comes into play as well
    • Platinum: Wave management and Champion Pool. Understand freezes/Slow pushes/how to crash a wave for a dive/recall timings/etc. Also, take the time in this elo to expand your champion pool. Up to this point, you should have at least 3 champions that you are competent on and can pick up again fairly easily even if you go 5-10 games without them. Start learning supports that fill their role, harder champions, and champions of different roles.
    • Low Diamond: Tracking the Enemy Jungler and understanding the other roles. At this point you are mechanically good, and you hopefully have a decent champion pool. Now its time to take your knowledge past the Support/ADC role. Track the enemy jungler, understand the other roles and their matchups, especially jungle, and what it means for you guys in the early game, and how that will impact your roams/vision score, and when you call for objectives.
    1. Consistency. Consistency. Consistency. This is HUGE in all elos. Be consistent. If you have a champion that you either do super well on, or really poorly, dont play them in ranked. figure out your weaknesses, their matchups, and hone them in your norms. Try to be the most consistent player you can be in terms of your choices. Always be thinking "What will make me the most consistently useful for my team". Is Pyke a super consistent champion? Nope. Is Lulu? Hell yeah. Is Alistar super consistent? Not really. Is Nautilus? Oh yeah. Stuff like that. Obviously this argument only goes so deep, but in general I dont recommend playing High Risk-High reward champions in ranked unless you get good enough at them to make them work consistently.
    2. Know your potential Runes/Itemization. Obviously some champions only have 1 rune they can realistically go, but play around with runes and know when they are applicable. For example, Zyra can go Comet, Elect, Dark Harvest, or Glacial, and each of them have their individual needs and preferences. Bard can go Elect, HoB, Guardian, or Omni. Most enchanters can easily go Guardian (this is actually my go-to on Zilean, since he doesnt have a best rune). Play around with stuff, and know when you have a favorable and non-favorable matchup, and take your runes accordingly.
    3. Team Compositions. Know what your team needs. You and the Jungler fall under this category primarily, as the two roles have the most flexibility in terms of what champion you can go. More on this when it comes to champion pool, but you should be able to fill what your team needs, whether its engage, peel, healing, shields.
    4. Champion Pool. Don't one trick, ideally dont even 2-trick. this limits you as a player, and your rank at this point identifies your skill with that champion moreso than your skill at the game. this is probably going to attack a lot of people, but thems the facts my dudes. If you can only play Zyra and youre in diamond. Then youre a diamond Zyra player, but you probably would struggle in High Gold/Low Plat playing something like Braum. Ideally you want at least 3 champions when you climb. The tri-fecta I reccomend is Nami, Naut, and Taric. One provides Healing/sustain (Nami), one provides Engage (Naut), and the other provides peel (Taric). These three will obviously not round out every single comp, but they will fit most of them. Personally my Tri-fecta was Taric, Zyra, and Rakan, as I had 2 champs with peel, one with peel and engage, and one for straight aggression/poke.
    5. Vision Control. This is your main job as a support. Im not going to cover how to control vision, because there are a lot of videos out there that cover this and you can easily watch those. What I want to talk about is helping your team use their vision. Has your adc hit lvl 9 and not switched to Farsight Alteration? Ping that and (KINDLY) tell him to get it. Has your jungler not got an oracle lens out of the gate? Wait til lvl 3 at least just to be safe, cuz sometimes they like having wards for counter jungles and invades, then ask them (KINDLY) to get a sweeper. Notice that your top side hasnt warded his bush in a while and probably has a ward in pocket? remind him. Notice that not everyone is buying control wards? Ask them to buy one. Ask your team to come with you when you want to get vision on an objective, cuz likely the enemy is also trying to, and you dont need to die for that. Remember: Vision is not for YOU, its for your TEAM. I'll cover this in the Roaming part, but make sure that your vision is deep, that way you can track the enemy jg early game, you can watch objectives. In late game, make sure your wards are protecting you from flanks and engages, make sure that youre helping youre split pusher with vision if they need help (warding choke points like the intersection at either blue buff where the enemy can walk through to go mid/top/jg camps.
    6. Roaming. Watch videos on when to ideally roam, again, it'll cover the concept quicker than i can here. What I wanna mention is setting up roaming with your recall. When you recall, path towards the buff on your side of the map (I'll be talking as if youre on red side, so path towards your blue buff). WHILE you walk from base to blue, look at the lane states of mid and bot. Ideally bot lane isnt in a fucked state because you didnt take a bad recall, but sometimes you die and cant help it. Make sure you arent missing out on gold/exp by roaming. See if your mid lane is gankable. Where is your jungler? Have you recently seen the enemy? If the enemy jungler shows top side, deep ward their bot side jungle. Put a ward in the raptor bush and put one on their red buff bush. Put a control ward in the Pixle brush or drag pit (if its up/spawning soon) if you dont need it bot lane (example where you wouldnt need it is if youre playing against a seige comp like Cait/Zyra that just wants to constantly push you in, and you never have a great spot to put it. With every recall, try to do something to impact the map.
    7. Positioning. Make sure that your positioning in fights covers what your role is supposed to do. Are you playing a peeling champ like Braum or taric? Stand between your carry and the enemy. Are you playing an enchanter like Lulu or Nami? stick near your ranged carries, slighly ahead of them, but out of range of the enemies engage. Be ready to provide shields/peel for your front line, while also keeping some protection ready and in range of your carries. Constantly think of what your team, but also the enemy team wants to do in that moment, and do your champions job according to that.
    8. Wave Management. Know the basics of wave management. In lower elo, the adc likely wont do any of this and both adcs will just try to perma shove their waves and get plating. You dont have a lot of agency over the wave unless you take Relic/Shoulderguards as a support, but you should at least know what you can do with the wave ideally, and how to do it. Try to influence your wave and communicate with your adc what you want to do. For higher elos where your adc learns how to manipulate the wave and you no longer have to control it, you still have to help him do what he wants and knowing the concepts helps you assist him with this. It also helps you identify what he wants to do because you recognize it, since they likely cant/wont take the time to type out "hey im slow pushing this wave into a crash on the next wave", or "hey i wanna shove this in for a recall so we are strong when we come back for the cannon wave", etc.
    9. Understanding the ADC and Support role and Champions. Know the matchups for your role, obviously. In general its a rock paper scissors game of Mages > Tanks > Enchanters > Mages. Mages bully the fuck out of tanks, essentially making them unable to go in without dying. Tanks get the jump on enchanters, and enchanters mitigate the damage mages try to put out. Past the support role, know the ADC matchups. If youre playing Lulu/Vayne into Cait/Nami, know that its a really shitty matchup for Vayne, and you guys, especially as scaling adc and scaling support, need to bunker down and scale for late game. if youre playing Vayne/Lulu into Kai'sa/Naut, its an even lane state once you hit lvl 3, because you can look to try to bully and poke out the naut when he goes for targons stacks, the two adcs have a relatively equal power at that moment.
    10. Knowing the difference between healing and shielding. This is pretty big. I see people run Nami with a team that has Zac/Vlad or something. This is bad, and its why Lulu is a better pick here for example. Both of these champions have a lot of healing in their kit, which means the enemy is going to build grevous, or at least should. So if you need an enchanter (because you already have engage with Zac), dont go a healing enchanter, go a shielding one. Past straight compositions, if your team doesnt have anyone with healing, know when to take one or the other.
    • Healing: Is best in long, sustained fights. If you heal someone, that health is theirs until they lose it.
    • Shielding: Is best against burst. Think of your shield as "Temporary Health", and your shield is a 300 dmg shield for 2 seconds. That is giving its target 300 Temporary Health for 2 seconds, but after that, its gone. Shields are typically a larger quantity than heals (i say typically cuz not all champions that give shields , like taric, are champions that have the shield as a focus of their kit, like Janna or Lulu). This is because if you could heal someone 300 health vs shield them 300 health with the same amount of levels, items, runes, etc (not taking into account grevous), why not heal them? Shield abilities are also considerably longer in cooldown, since they are a higher quantity, so they are typically not as good in long, drawn out fights. So if the enemy has a Zed for example, Lulu is significantly better than Soraka or Nami.

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    General tips/thoughts:

    -If you care about rank, but not being good at the game as a whole, then go ahead and 1 trick.

    -Positive Mental Attitude is actually so op, and a lot of people dont take into account how much easier the game is if you stay positive.

    -Study up and learn how to shot call. Understand when a team would ideally want to take dragon/baron/rift/rotate for a tower/etc, and practice calling those shots. You may not always be right, but learn from each right and wrong call, and youll be better off for it. Teams that have more vocal players (not toxic vocal, constructive vocal) are typically better teams overall. If you make a shit call, someone will probably ping you off of it or tell you no. Dont get upset, try to understand why because they may have a point. If they dont, it will at least give you perspective on how that person thinks in their role/champion/matchup, and you can take that into your future games.

    Good luck on the Rift summoners, and I hope you all are being safe and sane in quarantine :) Feel free to comment any questions, corrections, or anything in the comments and I'll do my best to answer, or discuss, whatever you have to share to the discussion. Sorry this post was long, but i did my best to mention topics that were relevant and keep it short, while also a little entertaining.

    TLDR; In order to facilitate your climbing, you must know the game. Improve your map control, vision control, champion pool, and understanding of when champions are strong on either team, and how to play around them.

    Edit: correction from comments about Temporary vs Effective Health

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    How I became self-aware and improved in LoL - Healthy Environment

    Posted: 27 Apr 2020 01:05 PM PDT

    I've been playing League of Legends since 2013, when I first got introduced by a cousin of mine and a couple of university colleagues. I was studying software engineering and playing games seemed a good way to have fun and socialize with my colleagues and friends. I remember I was a noob, alright. Someone told me "you should play jinx I love her" and I chose her and stick with her all the time. I remember sometimes I let my friends frustrated because I only knew Jinx and I had to always go ADC.
    But what really draws my attention to are the memories of playing late at night, and when exams were coming around I would still be playing LoL those days, and that was fine, but what was not fine was playing until so late that I forgot to do dinner, it was almost sleep time, or I forgot I was boiling water in the kitchen. That was a big mistake. I was doing OK on my University grades, and the game was really helping me to get the stress out of it, have a little fun, but not that much because 1. I didn't know how to play the game 2. The game was and can be still very toxic if you don't choose who you play with or you go alone and may find toxic people. So I will be throwing some tips of my own and others that I learnt since I joined Legends Coaching and been playing with amazing people that help me and make this game much more than what it is!

    1. Don't play late at night when you're supposed to be sleeping

    It was in about 2 weeks ago that I only realized I shouldn't sacrifice my sleep over anything. I started doing the Keto diet, working out, but still didn't focus on my sleep. When I was losing games late at night it was sad, I became stressed, back pain, neck pain, and there I was, in the middle of the night, playing League alone, and losing games. Why? I was tired. Don't play when you are tired, or sad, or when you're supposed to be sleeping. I remember once it was 1am and I was playing with a friend I met on League, we were winning the ranked match but I was sad, and I said to him, I am sad but I don't know why, we are wining… and he said, "yeah I'm sad too, I don't know either". We were wining and we won more than 2 ranked games in a row, but that was with the sacrifice of a good sleep! And even though I didn't know why I was sad, maybe it was my subconscious, the subconscious knows even when you don't realize.

    So I told myself, not to play after 8pm. And that helped me a lot.

    2. Remove Toxicity and Join the good environment

    I found this amazing Legends Coaching Group on reddit, what brought me here was the free coaching but I am realizing now that this is more than just learning how to play the game. It's about creating an amazing healthy community with people who, as you, play the game, but play it the right way, and help you! And I don't mean only the learning of the game, but the learning HOW to When to play, when to take a break, when to stop and when to continue!
    Legends Coaching is teaching me how to be smart, to take long walks every day between games or before playing extensive hours. To think ahead of the game, and set goals for myself. As Wan Wing (Diamond Player, Legends Coaching's member) said, you have to set goals before each game.
    Also, if you are on very low elo (Iron, Bronze or even low Silver) and are playing alone, something I learnt is to don't allow toxicity in the chat. Whenever I go Solo Queue, I check, if they start saying bad things or get aggressive on chat, I instantly mute that person. Sometimes when the whole team gets mad, I mute them, except my support. Sometimes even if my support is being stupid, I mute them! And If the enemy team chat is not helping either, you can mute that too. If it is not helping, just mute.
    In this group there is a discord chat, and many channels where we can share videos, tips, and even funny content, memes, and there's plenty of people active/online who help not only with tips on how to play but help your morale and your emotions. I was having a loss streak and when I chat on the general group, some people sent me private messages saying they wanted to help me, and to know what is going on, and that was great! One of them was Arketual, also a coach. He said to me: "If you're in a loss streak, play with a different champion, take a break before playing, go for a walk, play a normal game just for fun, because if you are not having fun in the game, you will be just another bronze player that whenever loses a game, blames their team and gets sad". They helped and are still helping me, which is amazing.
    Also, talking about toxicity, drink lots of water while playing! It will flush the toxicity out of your system haha. You will have to take breaks to go to the toilet, and that is good for you since you are sitting all games, and need to extend those legs, take a small break to go to the toilet, to breathe and to check the Sun.

    3. Set Goals for that Day

    It is important to set goals for that day whenever you plan to spend couple of hours playing LoL. They extended the normal duration of a game, what was 20 minutes before now can be 30, 40, 50 minutes. So, you have to plan ahead and be aware of the time you have and what you will do to try and make the game shorted and get an easy win. Think ahead of the game and plan your day/matches and they will be more profitable and enjoyable. How many games will you play today?

    • How will you play that game? Aggressive early or Defensive?
    • Can you be aggressive that game early on?
    • Do you need to play safe early because the enemy lane is better than you early?
    • Is your team composition better than the enemy team? If not, what can you do to make it better?
    • Will you focus on farm? How many minions per minute?

    4. Always try to learn something from that game

    Either you won or you lost, what matters is what you learnt from that game. Was it the team composition? Was it the mid laner? Was it bot lane? Was it that you didn't have vision in your jungle or enemy jungle? What went wrong and what went right. How many farm did you get and was it effective? Were you with the team, did you help the team or were you just slowing them down? Whatever it was, try to remember it and if you have time, watch that game. You learn a lot by watching the games you play. Here are some tips:

    • Find out at least 3 things that went wrong on that game and write them down.
    • Who had best score/farm/kda? and why
    • Who focused on objectives and goals?
    • Who was the best at Total Damage Dealt to Champions?
    • Who was the best at Total Damage to Objectives?
    • Who had more gold?

    Remember your role and what stats you should get on that game. For instance, if you are ADC as I am most of my games, you need to aim for the Total Damage Dealt to Champions. Most of it will come late game, but you need to be with the team to protect them, and how do you protect them? By killing them. It's the best way to make sure that you are in control. Like in a football match, What is the best way to defend? It is to counter-attack. Some of the best goals were made when the adversary was trying to shot for a goal but someone interfered and they ran so fast on that counter attack that all the adversaries were still on the other side of the field, and no one could defend that goal. Now, I know this ain't football and whenever someone gets into your base or gets closer, you should defend, but what I am saying is, you need to auto attack whenever you can, if you have an opportunity go for it.

    5. Top things I learnt on how to play better

    Now I want to help you, because if you are on my team, i want the best version of yourself. And because of that, I will tell you what I learnt since I joined Legends Coaching. These are Pro Tips!

    1. Be Healthy before you play a game.

    If you are tired, don't play. You won't play in your best version, you won't pay attention as much. Also, if you don't want to play, just don't play. If someone is forcing you to play with them and you don't want to, just don't play.
    If you are ready, then yes, get a bottle of water or tea, and find match!

    1. Learn your Role.

    This is the most important thing I learnt from one of my coaches, Pounce (Bot Lane Coach on Legends Coaching). He told me, "Remember your role as an adc". You have to get golds, because you need items to be RELEVANT.

    1. Farm better.

    This is what all coaches will tell you to do (Marfje which is a Legends Coach that covers not only Bot Lane coaching but other lanes also, was the first one who told me to focus on learning to farm better, that I didn't have bad farm for my league but to always aim for 10 minions per minute). Learn how to farm and you will get ahead. Someone said, 20 minions equals 1 kill, so focus on farming and you will get better results. Last hit minions, don't mindlessly auto them.

    1. Focus on waves

    Never go b on a cannon minion wave. Those get you almost 90 gold.
    Hit casters instead of melees if you want to push.

    1. Laning Phase

    Stick with your lane and defend it. If the enemy starts roaming, you have to push the lane to the turret to force them to come back, otherwise you won't be helping your other lanes.

    Once the laning phase is over, even more as an ADC, you group up with your team and you focus the closest targets in fights and never be alone. Stay behind your allies in fights as an ADC.

    In lane, every single time the adc walks up to last hit, put an auto attack on him.

    1. Drakes > Turrets . Macro Play

    Now this is the best part. As an ADC I would be playing alone in a lane just to defend it or push it, to get more farm, and I would forget my team mates, drakes, barons, etc… I am not doing that ever again. I was getting more farm than the enemy team, but that was with a cost, and it was costing me to the point of losing the game.

    Be aware of the spawning of drakes, and baron. Always ward them early and so on, to help your jungler. Take all turrets Tier 1, then T2, then T3, but if there's a drake around, focus on the drake.

    1. Stick with 3 main champions and play not more than 2 lanes.

    This was one of the first tips I got told to do. MathYG was one of the first coaches that told me to choose only 3 main ADC's and 2 Support champions to play. You get to learn the mechanics of the game, and

    Also, when I said that I wanted to learn the game and that was the reason why I was playing different lanes, lux mid, jungler, top lane, etc., Pounce told me, there's lots of time to learn how to play the game with different champs once I get out of the bronze elo, now it's not the time to learn champs but to get out of the "hell" elo.

    Most importantly, make sure you are having fun and stay healthy! Remember this is a game, it's supposed to be fun. Sleep and Take care of you first, so you can enjoy 100% of your games.

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    A detailed guide on maintaining good farm and staying relevant throughout the game.

    Posted: 27 Apr 2020 08:25 AM PDT

    Happy quarantine, r/summonerschool!

    In light of all of the free time I've been awarded due to current events, my obsession with improving at our favorite game has introduced me to a lot of new research and information. I thought it would be helpful if I shared my research with the community, so here's a detailed and formatted guide on today's topic; farming! A little about me; I'm intimed, a peak D3 ADC player (Plat is the new Diamond)/twitch streamer with more knowledge than skill at the game. My amount of knowledge isn't anything special, if that tells you anything about my skill...

    A few notes before we start:

    • This post will be focused on farming as a laner, NOT as a jungler.
    • My main sources are Riot's patch notes, leagueoflegends.fandom.com, and my own game knowledge. While I've tried my best to ensure accurate data, I'm not perfect, so feel free to correct me if necessary and I will edit the post ASAP.

    Right. Moving on! Here's what you need to know about farming as a laner;


    So, we've all heard the general rule of thumb; aim for 10 cs (creep score) per minute. When we watch the pros play, we have no idea how an ADC can manage to get 120 cs by the 10 minute mark, or 380 by the 30. Let's talk about how you can get closer to those numbers.

    Why is farm so important?

    Last-hitting minions is by far the easiest and most reliable way to earn essential gold for your character. With the gold granted from farming, you will be able to buy items to increase your power. While last-hitting isn't necessary to soak experience from nearby dying minions, you can also gain experience (and gold!) by killing jungle camps to level up faster than your opponent, ultimately increasing your base stats and ability powers.

    How do I maintain good creep scores?

    We'll break this down into a few parts; early, mid, and late game. But first, I'm going to post a chart of what perfect cs/min would be for a few time checkpoints to remember, along with a reasonable (but difficult) goal for those checkpoints, roughly 9cs/min. These scores can be considered good in elo all of the way up to diamond, along with higher elo matches that involve a lot more fighting than scaling comps. After that, a few notes on gaining experience.

    Perfect CS and what you should aim for as an improving player (~9cs/min): checkpoint version (copy this on a sticky note and have it next to your game to reference)

    @5:00-- 50cs/min perfect, 38 goal

    @10:00-- 114cs/min perfect, 90 goal

    @15:00-- 177 cs/min perfect, 135 goal

    @20:00-- 242 cs/min perfect, 180 goal

    @25:00-- 307 cs/min perfect, 225 goal

    @30:00-- 377 cs/min perfect, 270 goal-- 270 cs is roughly 4800 gold not including passive gold (19 every 10s), tower plating, objective gold (300g per baron), etc... 2 full items just from decent farm. If your sitting at 270 cs and your opponent 170, that's a 2k gold lead in cs.

    @35:00-- 447 cs/min perfect, 315 goal

    @40:00-- 517 cs/min perfect, 360 goal

    What does experience have to do with farming?

    They go hand in hand. The point of farming is to make your character stronger for fighting/taking objectives, to put it simply. Leveling up does the same thing. Items are great, but leveling up your abilities/ultimate (looking at you, Kassadin) is also great.

    Here's some quick info on gaining experience.

    Killing a champion: Gives 42 − 990 (based on enemy champion level) experience.

    This is reduced by 0 / 16 / 32 / 48 / 60% (based on level difference) if the killer is higher level than the slain champion.

    This is increased by 16% for each level the slain champion is higher than the killer (level difference can be decimal).

    Assisting a kill: Gives 28 − 990 (based on enemy champion level) experience but the experience is shared equally among all assisting allies.

    Proximity to a champion's death while dead: Nearby enemy champion deaths grant experience up to 10 seconds after your death (whether or not you assisted in the kill).

    Proximity to a minion death: Being within 1600 units of a minion's death grants experience, regardless of whether it was last hit or killed by another source. Last hitting a minion while further than 1600 units away also grants experience.

    Jungle monsters: Killing a monster grants experience (more to those who have bought jungle items). All experience goes to the killer, even if there are allies nearby.


    EARLY GAME:

    This phase is known as the laning phase. It's usually the safest phase for farming and involves the least amount of fighting in the game. Top and mid are 1v1s and bot is usually 2v4 2v2. Yes, junglers gank lanes as early as level 1 or 2. But for the sake of the post, we're going to talk about farming now, and ganks when we get there.

    The game is more focused on getting your character stronger than objectives at this point. Most characters are not equipped for fights at level one. During levels one through three, you should mainly look to NEVER give up free cs (missing an essential last hit), avoid poke, and abuse enemy cooldowns/jungle pressure.

    Here's some stats for you:

    A minion wave can value in total gold from 125-195g depending on the game time. That's right, the first two minion waves are worth 250 gold in total. With the game's passive gold sitting at 19 gold per 10 seconds, you can generate a full kill's worth of gold (and more experience) simply by last-hitting the first two minion waves. So if you're wondering why you can solo kill your lane opponent by level 3 and still feel behind, it's because you missed 8/12 of the first two waves of minions and they have TP advantage, putting you behind in levels and items.

    Minions spawn every 30 seconds starting at 1:05 (second wave spawns at 1:35). Every third wave there is a siege (canon) minion. As of patch 8.7, canon minion's gold reward has been increased to have a base of 60g and will grow to 90g by ~17 minutes.

    Wave strategy

    Without players touching the waves, minions on both sides will neither advance or retreat in any significant amount. If a wave catches up to the one that spawned before it, it will start pushing the enemy's wave.

    There's quite a few techniques that have been developed to manipulate waves to a player's advantage. We're going to focus on the 3 most popular; freezing, slow pushing, and shoving.

    Freezing: freezing is the safest way to farm as it relieves the pressure that jungle ganks can cause. It can also be a way to prepare for a push. To freeze a wave, you need to keep things equal. If you want to freeze the wave in the middle of lane, you'll need to keep an extra enemy caster minion to make up for your last hit damage doing more than the other wave. If you want to freeze the wave near your tower (which many players recommend when freezing), you'll need to make up for the fact that your wave will arrive sooner and you will need more enemy minions to keep the damage equal. A good rule of thumb is to keep four extra enemy minions up for a freeze. Keep in mind that freezing isn't just a safe way to farm; it's also a great way to punish your opponent. By freezing waves near your tower you can deny the enemy walking up to cs by using your poke abilities or set up a gank for your jungler.

    Slow pushing: A slow push will let you build up a bigger wave to later pressure a tower or force the enemy to rotate to catch it (great to do if a nearby objective like dragon or rift herald is coming up). To slow push, you can kill the enemy caster minions because they don't have resistances like the melee minions do that can stall your wave. Slow pushing is best when you are needed elsewhere and don't your lane to go to crap.

    Shoving: Shoving is the fastest way to cs and create the need for immediate responses by the enemy. Lots of mages have shove abilities (ex. Xerath Q, Ahri Q) that can help shove waves very fast to allow them to either rotate for early skirmishes or objectives or even go for tower plates. DO NOT MINDLESSLY SHOVE. If you mindlessly shove every wave, the enemy jungler will love you. Abusing positions of players who shove every wave is something even an iron jungler can do. Only shove when necessary. Keep in mind that a decent player will know how to create a freeze out of hard shoves. While it means they won't be able to rotate for objectives, if you're just shoving to shove, you'll be in for a rough lane phase.

    Side note: When being shoved under tower, melee minions can be killed with 2 tower shots/1 auto for most AD champions and 2 autos for most mages. Caster minions are a bit trickier, for the first few levels you'll need to auto them once before the tower shot and once after to secure the last hit. Once you've reached 2 long swords or a pickaxe, a tower shot and one auto will secure the last hit. Mages are a bit more difficult and will require you knowing your champion's specific clear abilities.

    Overall: Try to control your waves. Try to make your opponent react to you, not the other way around; even if that means you make them feel like they're in control when hard pushing you. Know your champion *don't let people push you in as Tristana or else you'll miss half of every wave to your E passive). Hard shove or have your jungler help freeze a wave before you back to miss out on less minions. At the very least, back on a canon minion wave so the enemy wave doesn't all die under your tower before you get back.


    MID GAME:

    The mid game is revolved around objectives. With the current meta of season 10, dragons and the dragon soul is one of the most obvious win conditions, along with baron. By mid game, the first tower (sometimes more) is taken and lanes are looking to rotate out of their starting positions. Usually bot lane will rotate up to a solo lane. Why? Numbers. Numbers in fights work wonders. The enemy Lux mid has done a great job clearing the wave against her laner, but can't help but die to a 3 man jungle and bot combo in lane, ultimately giving up 2 waves and her full tower, or asking the other 4 players on her team to rotate to help.

    So what should I do on the first rotation? And what does this have to do with a FARMING guide?

    1. Play it by ear, really. 2. Keep in mind a few things;

    Let me introduce you to this thing called sharing...

    In the case of farming, sharing is NOT caring. When more than 1 champion is sharing minion experience, 24.73% extra experience is split among all champions. That's great, except... you still miss out on a lot.

    Two champions each gain 62.36%.

    Three champions each gain 41.57%.

    Four champions each gain 31.18%.

    Five champions each gain 24.94%.

    So, if you're the mid laner, and your bot lane is there to help you with tower, along with your jungler to help you with the enemy's 4 matching opponents, you're missing out on 69% of the experience (and probably gold) you could be getting if you simply rotated to an empty lane or taking open jungle camps. With dragon control being so neccessary in the meta, why not go bot? I know, I know; your teammates just want to ARAM. Maybe they lose a fight and rage out, maybe they go 2 for 3. MAYBE you lose a dragon. But you know what you gained? 2 levels of solo xp, pressure in another lane, and about a kill's worth of gold, all to yourself. Remember that Lux working effortlessly to defend the T1 tower with her entire team? Have fun one shotting her in a minute or two.

    Same goes with bot. You ever find one of those adcs like Kai'sa or Vayne who you forget exist until they're 3 levels up at 15 minutes because they just split? Be greedy with farm. Take it all. Soak up that solo xp. You deserve it. Which reminds me...

    • Jungle camps. For those of you who aren't aware, you gain less experience from jungle camps if you don't have smite and a jungling item. But you know what you still get? Gold. Mid game isn't always about objective control. Maybe your team traded dragon for rift. What now? You send 2 top to defend from rift, bot to defend from the split, and... you're tasked to hold mid. Easy, but what about when you clear the pushing wave? Take jungle camps. Scuttles are great for getting gold and health/mana, and you also might find one of those nice green plants on your way there. Ask your jungler if you can take a buff (or take it if they're mean and bad), take the enemy's raptors or gromp, etc. Jungle camps can offer 4-6 cs per clear. Taking them help you reach your cs/min goal, and if nobody else is going to, why not go for it?

    Overall: Don't fall into the trap of just fighting ARAM after the first tower falls. You can literally carry games by pressuring other parts of the map (and if nobody wants to stop the split-push Yorick getting free farm bot, have fun winning before 20)! Not to mention you can find huge leads on your opponents by just farming and getting solo xp. This doesn't mean completely abandon objectives like dragons, rifts, and baron, but seriously... stop wasting time fighting for 3 minions mid with your ADC. Be smart about how you can get your character stronger. And don't forget to ward if you're going to be pushing :)


    LATE GAME:

    Late game is where you look to end things. Where you look to get that sweet, sweet LP back that you lost 30 minutes ago. Most of the time, late game revolves around a single objective fight (baron/elder) and a final push. By this time, you should have already gotten your character as strong as you possibly could have. Games are averaging 25 minutes nowadays, give or take a few. If one team has taken all of the dragons, elder is probably up, if it's 2/2, the baron fight will probably decide it. Farming is important here too, but don't be that guy leaving a baron fight to go take krugs. Since one of the teams will be looking to end after the objective fight, keep in mind that getting gold and backing for a couple of longswords probably isn't the play. Spending gold on control wards or elixirs late game can offer a lot more than simple stat items like ruby crystals or daggers. If you're waiting for the objective to come up, return to your old habits of warding, taking open jungle camps/buffs if you're a carry, and pushing side lanes to force the enemy to react to you.


    TLDR;

    So, I wanted to share some data and some simple strategies to farming in early and mid-game phases, and what you should do when looking to close out the game. I'm by no means a pro but this is some data that I believe can help anybody climb. The goals I posted above should help you check your CS during game a lot easier. It's easy to say 85 cs at 10 minutes is decent, but before or after that, calculating minutes and seconds and math in general isn't something you want to do in a fight. Feel free to copy that on a sticky note and have it up mid-game. Early game focus on getting farm and experience. Plain and simple. It's the best way to make your character more powerful for later fights. You can get two kills in lane but be useless later. Why? You didn't farm and lost experience to backing twice for an early sheen with no TP. Meanwhile, your opponent has great cs and helped his/her jungle pressure early mini-objectives like scuttle. Also, don't mindlessly shove waves. For mid game: when the first tower falls and your team starts to rotate, don't share xp and farm with 4 other players. Rotate yourself and don't fall for the ARAM bait. Play around important objectives like dragons but still maintain a cs goal of 9/min if at all possible. Soak up solo xp and take jungle camps if nobody else is going to. Late game is all about the final objective and final push. Buy whatever you can before your team wants to gain control of the objective (you can buy up to 2 control wards and don't forget about elixirs/upgrading you base ward to sweeper/blue trinket, which you probably should've already done in early-mid game).

    Good luck on your climb, guys. This is my first time doing something like this so I hope it helps even though it might not be the best.

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    Ayo, new player here

    Posted: 27 Apr 2020 02:59 AM PDT

    I just recently started playing and I sometimes queue up with 2 friends (that are much more experienced, having played for a some years) and I was wondering if you guys could give me any tips apart from "play", as that's something I already plan on doing. Like, specific stuff I should try to do or pay attention to.

    EDIT: as of now I'm principally playing Caitlyn and Darius. Planning to practice with Annie, Twitch, Warwick and Garen too.

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    When/How do I stop using websites and apps for builds and runes and start thinking for myself?

    Posted: 27 Apr 2020 12:01 AM PDT

    I've been playing the game for many years now, and my average ranked games since I started is definitely less than 100. So I can say that I do not have enough game experience to say that I have great game knowledge. I've always been on/off with this game. Having ranked anxiety in the past. Not wanting to play alone and etc.

    For those hours I spent playing, I never really thought of actually learning the game for real until lately. I thought I only needed to load up some website like OP.GG or download an app like Blitz.GG. Join a game and do my best. Not knowing why I took these runes, why I am building the way I am building, what to build against specific matchups.

    I am still Silver, Highest I ever got was Gold 4 back in season 7. Started off season 8 in Silver, then stopped playing and got back to the game preseason 10.

    So How should I start thinking for myself? How do I learn the game so I can consider myself knowledgeable in the game? Making my own decisions without mindlessly playing the game where I just listen and not analyze?

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    Getting wrist pain while playing league?

    Posted: 27 Apr 2020 11:20 AM PDT

    Hello guys i have been playing league of legends for 2 years now and since i started to pick up cassio i have been getting more and more pain in my wrist like a month ago. I went to the doctor and it seemed fine so i took a pause from league for a couple of weeks and now as i start playing again i can feel it slowly coming back?

    Any suggestions on how i could ease it down or maybe if you have any tips/experience on this matter an answer would be very appreciated.

    Srry for any formating issues or misspellings im on my phone btw.

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    Guide To Mage Starting Items

    Posted: 27 Apr 2020 12:34 PM PDT

    Hey what's up! I'm an writer for Dignitas and I recently put out this guide on starting items for mages, check it out if you're trying to improve your midlaning!

    Click Here

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    How exactly do I play Karthus? His whole kit and passive makes me think I'm supposed to be some suicide-committing champ?

    Posted: 27 Apr 2020 01:44 AM PDT

    Should I be maximizing AP and throwing myself in the thick of teamfights? Seems like the idea is to basically try to dish out as much damage while alive + dead with passive and then pop the ult to secure kills.

    Is that it? Or am I misinterpreting his kit? I mean, I just thought it was weird that his playstyle would require him to die. Again, unless I'm wrong, what exactly is he supposed to do?

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    Wtf are u supposed to do after laning phase?

    Posted: 27 Apr 2020 11:19 AM PDT

    It seems like me and my teammates legit don't know what to do after laning phase. We already killed the dragon. We're all just roaming around like a bunch of idiots as if we are WAITING for the enemy team to come and rush us. So like should we be going for turrets or defending or what? Or maybe start a teamfight and then rush after killing the enemy team?

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    ganking with master yi

    Posted: 26 Apr 2020 08:58 PM PDT

    So im having trouble ganking with master yi as i am silver 2. Yi has no cc abilities so i am not sure how to even gank w him pre 6. My teammates will not even go in even when i spam ping them. And when i afk farm jungle my team just ints and gets the enemy so fed to the point where i cant even get to late game and the game ends at 30 minutes.

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    Season 10 wisdom for climbing

    Posted: 27 Apr 2020 08:31 AM PDT

    Back in the game after a few months off. Amazing what a new season and a few months does to one's play. Bad early start but back in the groove. These are my advices for season 10 on how I turned it around:

    • Think like a jungler and help your jungler. Help contest early scuttle/dragons/rifts when possible. If ahead, contest buffs too.

    • When you have an advantage you want to force the fight there and try to outplay when at a disadvantage (let enemy tank dragon and hope they panic with a bad engage/throw). Yell at your jungler if he gives free dragons.

    • If you are tank/bruiser look for teammates. it's your job to start fights whenever you have # advantage.

    • If you are ADC don't start teamfights and don't poke for high-risk low reward. Understand the earlier points, be near your tank and jg to pick up kills.

    • Ping MIA in lane, and especially when dead.

    • Dodge games with very bad teamcomps and auto fills or loss-streakers/trolls.

    • Bonus ADC laning tip for unfavorable matchups: Play like a bitch and don't take damage. Miss CS if necessary. If can't CS without taking crazy damage have some bite and sneak in a poke when opportunity is there. If supp does bad engage auto what's free and don't take damage unless 100% sure you win trade. Playing like a bitch means the enemy bot gets frustrated and takes increasing risks against what is perceived to be a weak player. This can setup a good JG gank or a misplay that leads to a kill.

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    Should I play other roles before I play jungle?

    Posted: 27 Apr 2020 10:47 AM PDT

    Title. I'm new to the game, but I've realized learning more about wave management/matchups/teamfighting in simpler roles might be a better idea before getting into jungle. If so, what roles should I play? I want to get good at trades/teamfights and I'm not super interested in the island of top lane.

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    Questions about playing Kai'Sa jungle effectively

    Posted: 27 Apr 2020 04:36 PM PDT

    Out of boredom I decided to give Kai'Sa a shot in the jungle and I was surprised how much I liked it. Her clear is quite fast and healthy enough as long as I kite, her ganks are ok thanks to her damage and she scales into a late game monster with immense tank killing potential and a ferocious chase and assassination ability against squishies. However, I do have a few questions in regards to her runes, clear route and item build. 1. What is the optimal rune page for her? I have only played her with Hail of Blades, Taste of Blood, Eyeball Collection, Ravenous Hunter, Nimbus Cloak and Gathering Storm, but I think running Press the Attack, Triumph, Alacrity, Coup De Grace, Taste of Blood and Ravenous Hunter wouldn't be a bad idea either. I am curious about what suggestions you guys have. 2. What exactly is her optimal clear? I have tried 2 different routes, specifically Red Buff - Blue Buff - Gromp (Smite) - Wolves - Raptors (Smite) - Scuttler and Blue Buff - Gromp (Smite)- Wolves - Red Buff (Smite) - Raptors - Scuttler and I think the first one is a fair bit healthier and faster. If anyone has a suggestion for improving my clear path, I would appreciate it. 3. What items maximize her damage? I have only tried going Bloodrazor - Guinsoo - Nashor's Tooth - Zhonya up to this point and I wonder if buying Runaan and Infinity Edge after Guinsoo wouldn't be a better idea than going for AP. Granted, O didn't find her damage lackluster at all when getting AP items, but the fact I couldn't upgrade her Q kinda bugged me. Once again, there doesn't seem to be a consensus among pros and challenger players so I would like to hear what some of you guys think. 4. Does anyone have any tips regarding her playstyle as a jungler compared to an ADC? I have played her as an ADC a lot more than I have as a jungler and I am curious if I should be playing her in a different way as far as positioning and focus is concerned. Thanks for reading and I hope I can find some answers to these questions in your experience.

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    How do I win against ''troll'' botlanes

    Posted: 27 Apr 2020 04:19 PM PDT

    Talking about botlanes like Shaco Jax or Malphite Yasuo. Usually they just end up steamrolling bot as soon as they hit 6 or even sooner. How do I win lane against that?

    I poke them early but their combined CC and high damage usually instakills me a few minutes into the game.

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    When you are losing in lane, focus on how the enemy plays.

    Posted: 26 Apr 2020 06:54 PM PDT

    This is one of the best bits of advice I can give. If you see a Darius who just trashes you, try to figure out why, to see what you can do to prevent it the next time. Even better, learn what is so oppressive about it, and apply it yourself on those champions. I find myself playing against different champions all the time and just hoping that they won't do one specific thing because it would ruin me, but then I go back, play that champion, and use what I feared against my opponents. This isn't to say that you have to memorize exactly how to play every match-up, but just try to focus on the main things that make you hate or fear the match-up.

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    Why does it feel like I’m not getting enough gold?

    Posted: 27 Apr 2020 03:48 PM PDT

    For reference I just got to Bronze 4 and this my first season playing ranked. I started playing the game right before season 10 started(like when aphelios came out). I play Trymdamere and I don't get why it seems like I'm not getting as many items as my teammates. I'll have 250 cs and 4 kills at like 30 minutes from split pushing and only have 3 items and tier 3 boots but my adc will be sitting at 120 cs but be almost full build. Should I be looking for more kills? Am I missing something important about the game?

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    How to : ADC ((Something like that))

    Posted: 27 Apr 2020 11:53 AM PDT

    Hey ya'll, ADC main here. I basically just wanna know what some of the top players would say is what makes a great ADC. and i'm not taking "great vayne mechanics" or such but...actuall keystones for general in LOL & also for ADC Specifik scenarios.
    -
    Also, got any tips for soloQ ADC? Personally feel like the synergy diff botlane and skill difference between the adc & supp can be detrimental but yet you see alot of really good adcs making iron-challenger series without struggling too much, not even in laning phase vs counter match ups etc.

    Thanks in advance, take care.

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    Why is WW building tank

    Posted: 27 Apr 2020 07:50 AM PDT

    I am currently trying to climb out of Iron(yikes) with WW, I have a pretty good understanding of him and he is easy enough I have heard he would be good. Looking at his abilities though and seeing how his attack speed increases as the enemy gets lower health I don't understand why he isn't building an assassin kit instead of a tank kit. His q scales off of ap and his ult scales off of ad. Personally I have felt like my build(skirmisher warrior, ninja tabi,titanic hydra,spirit visage,steraks.....) leads to me becoming less and less impactful as the game goes on unless I am extremely fed and even then when late game comes I still get one shot. So why doesn't he build attack speed and ap and ad instead of health and armor

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    Is my brain too small for jungle?

    Posted: 27 Apr 2020 07:47 AM PDT

    So I have been playing jungle for about 80% of my league playtime which is only about 600 hours, and I'm just now starting to think that I don't have the right mindset for it.

    I'm not the most logical thinker, and I'm more of a creative thinker which doesn't really help me in jungle as I get lost and flounder around for a good bit every game.

    I'm thinking that maybe I should try playing somewhere else instead? I've been trying to learn rengar and Kha'Zix recently but I just think the role in general isn't for me.

    Is this something worth changing roles for? Or will I eventually learn the skills needed to be a successful jungler?

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    What to look for in VOD review?

    Posted: 27 Apr 2020 03:19 AM PDT

    Im S3 Jayce mid main and ive been playing since Season 5. Recently i realized there is a lot i can do to get better and my GM friend recommended VOD review. He didn't really have time to explain what i do but he said it helped him climb a lot. Im doing what i can because i promised myself i would get to Platinum or beyond this season.

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    How do I identify which lane to gank as a jungler?

    Posted: 27 Apr 2020 09:09 AM PDT

    I've heard that I should play around a lane that is "volatile" or play around a win condition. However, I don't know how to determine which lane that is. Should it be late game champs like jinx or kayle? Should it be a melee vs ranged lane? Just having some guidelines would be helpful here. (If it makes any difference I play scaling junglers like yi or shyvana)

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