League of Legends Patch 10.19 Discussion and Bug Megathread |
- Patch 10.19 Discussion and Bug Megathread
- Soo... I replaced Jinx’s abilities with Teemos.
- Chinese Fiora King 0.1 second 4 vitals
- SSG White players haven't received money for their skins to this day.
- Riot confirms smurf MMR changes
- It is stupid that we have to Accept the Normal League Missions but automatically have the TFT Missions
- Gen.G's Rascal was pleasantly surprised when we interviewed him: "I thought individual interviews were just for legends like GorillA, Faker, or Deft"
- Crowdsourced 2020 Worlds Power Rankings: The Results!
- The truth behind Jankos's stream shut down
- Worlds 2020 Match Schedule
- TSM REACTS To Worlds 2020 Group Draw! | League of Legends (LOL)
- TSM vs Suning scrim leak
- Infographic - Patch 10.19 ADC-SUPPORT OPTIMAL SYNERGIES
- I feel like toxicity comes from "Expecting" a win, rather than "playing" to win.
- New patch seems to include changes in matchmaking for smurf accounts (includes op.gg accounts as indicators)
- G2 Caps gets deleted in 0.1s
- Worlds 2020 Song/Animation dropping tomorrow (teased on Instagram)
- The Youngest Player in Each Role at Worlds 2020
- Tellstones: King’s Gambit | Tutorial
- The Liquid Update with Ovilee May - Worlds 2020 - Episode 1
- Smurfing is DONE, i think?
- nutty play with no r kata and vel were both fed btw
- Gen G reacts to Worlds group stage draw ! [ENG SUB]
- Wait...Ryze didn't get an out-of-nowhere buff on the Worlds patch...
- How do you kill Tahm Kench? Answer: You don't.
- I look forward to Worlds more than Christmas
| Patch 10.19 Discussion and Bug Megathread Posted: 16 Sep 2020 01:10 AM PDT | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Soo... I replaced Jinx’s abilities with Teemos. Posted: 16 Sep 2020 03:48 PM PDT
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| Chinese Fiora King 0.1 second 4 vitals Posted: 16 Sep 2020 08:03 AM PDT
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| SSG White players haven't received money for their skins to this day. Posted: 16 Sep 2020 07:26 AM PDT Edit: title is wrong, it's SSG 2017, my bad According to CuVee, SSG 2017 still haven't received their cut from the sale of their World's skins. TWENTY-SEVENTEEN. TWO-ZERO-ONE-SEVEN. He said that the players who were in America (CoreJJ/Crown) have gotten their share, but not the others. It's been THREE years. https://twitter.com/gzeebee/status/1306235541722034176?s=20 extremely shady and disappointing if i can say. Edit2: Ashley Kang confirmed the translation https://twitter.com/AshleyKang/status/1306241508962566146?s=20 [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Riot confirms smurf MMR changes Posted: 16 Sep 2020 09:14 AM PDT Riot has confirmed that they have changed the way smurfs are matched and should now be matched against themselves. This appears to affect some regions, not all of them. A more detailed post will be released at a later point, but it is now official that there was indeed a change in the matchmaking system. Proof [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Posted: 16 Sep 2020 02:49 PM PDT I, Like a lot of people dont give a crap about tft and its really annoying to sift through the TFT Missions all the time. It even has its own tab with a button so there is no reason to have it in the normal mission tab all the time. [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Crowdsourced 2020 Worlds Power Rankings: The Results! Posted: 16 Sep 2020 12:50 PM PDT A couple days ago, I posted a quick and simple survey asking people to choose which of two Worlds teams they thought would win in a head-to-head matchup. It was a great success, with almost a million results and even almost causing my website to crash. And since people want to see the numbers, here is Reddit's Worlds power rankings:
I use a method known as Maximum Likelihood to turn all of the raw data into a rating and then I took the natural log of the numbers to produce a more human-readable result. The absolute number doesn't matter as much as the difference between the two. For instance, the relative difference between DAMWON and G2 is about the same as that between JD and DRX (~0.32). Individual head-to-head results can be found here, and the head-to-heads that are derived from the rankings themselves (which differ slightly) are here. Raw data can be found here. Thoughts on the rankingsJust like last year, the top two ranked teams are extremely close, with China's Top Esports being only a 2% favorite over Korea's DAMWON Gaming. Interestingly enough, when put head-to-head, the former team was picked 58% of the time, but DAMWON was aided by voters being much more confident about their chances versus their fellow Korean teams as opposed to Top against the other Chinese representatives. Europe's G2 Esports are slightly further behind, though they are still within half a point of the frontrunners and were 2:1 favorites over every other team at Worlds. After the champions of the top three regions, there is a six-way logjam between the remaining Korean and Chinese teams and Fnatic. All of them are within one point of each other and no team ended up being more than 60% favorites over the one below them. They mostly ended up in different groups this Worlds, which means that we ended up having a fairly balanced draw this year, at least according to Reddit. Of course, this means that it'll be harder to tell if these six were in the right order or not, but they might end up meeting in the playoffs. Following the playoff favorites, we have the two remaining European teams as well as TSM, North America's champion. And yes, that's right, you guys put Rogue over TSM by a margin of 0.06. All three certainly have chances to move on, but they might have to face some uphill battles. Speaking of Europe, Rogue-MAD Lions had the greatest discrepency between people's votes and final percentages when all other teams are included. Usually people are more certain of teams within a region up facing each other (since they had recently played), but fully three-quarters of you chose the Rogue when you had the chance. However, their relatively equal preference against the other 20 squads meant that with regards to the final power rankings, it is only considered a 58-42 matchup. I'd like to take a moment here to talk about TSM. People seemed to irrationally love them or irrationally hate them much more than they did any other team. On one hand, almost 15% of people picked them over Top Esports, which was good enough for 6th overall. On the other extreme, they were only favored 93% of the time against the bottom 7, compared to 97% for the two teams around the North American squad. This ultimately appeared to work out in TSM's favor, as they finished ahead of the MAD Lions despite the latter actually being preferred in the head-to-head. The only other case of a team ahead in the one-on-one losing out were North America's 2nd and 3rd seeds. FlyQuest, thanks to them winning 3-2 in the playoffs, won the individual battle against Team Liquid, but people ultimately liked the veteran team more when paired off against the rest of the field, allowing them to jump ahead one spot to 13th. They're both about 1.5 points behind the top 8, so they both have a lot of proving to do before they can make playoffs. With the demise of the LMS as we knew it and the absense of Vietnam, the Unicorns of Love are our sole entrant not in the top 4 regions given any shot against those teams. There's a two-point difference between 14th and 16th, and as such they're given decent (but not great) odds against Team Liquid and FlyQuest, but are comfortable favorites over the remaining minor regions. When given a direct choice, the Russian representative wasn't given much of a chance against any team ahead of them (probably due to the lack of faith in any of the smaller regions), but their great performance against everyone below them put them in a reasonably respectable spot. Finally, we have the bottom 7 teams, all competing in play-ins. These are always a bit of a crapshoot, since most voters wouldn't be as familiar with them as they would their own region's teams, but ultimately it shook out such that Turkey's Supermassive was slightly ahead while very little faith was given to Latan America's Rainbow7 or Oceania's Legacy Esports. Of note is that the two PCS representatives, Machi Esports and PSG Talon, were virtually tied despite the former going 5-3 in two best of 5s and the latter missing three players for their first few matches. Some meta commentaryThere is a term in polling called the Lizardman's Constant, which came from a survey that purported to show that 4% of Americans believed that their leaders were secretly reptillian. The actual answer is obviously far lower, but the lesson to be learned is that about 2-5% of the time, depending on the methodology and audience, people will choose a "wrong" answer, either deliberately or by accident. This adds a baseline of noise to the poll, and is most evident when comparing the very top and bottom teams. For instance it's extremely unlikely that 1 in 40 people who participated actually believe that Japan's V3 Esports is a better team than the pre-tournament favorites, but that is what the raw data purports to show. This generally doesn't make too much of a difference (unless maybe if you're TSM), though it might obscure the true perceived gap between the top 14 and bottom 8 teams at Worlds. One important thing to note is that the percentages do not indicate how often one team will beat the other, but instead the odds that they're "better". Upsets happen and the worse team on paper does sometimes win. If Supermassive were to play Top Esports 200 teams, they would almost certainly win more than once, despite what a naive reading of the percentages would say. I've seen people use these numbers for predictions in the past, and my suggestion would be to add in a fudge factor of some sort if you wish to do something of the sort. I have once again been astounded by the amount of participation I've gotten in this ranking, and I'd like to thank the tens of thousands of you for contributing a few minutes of your time. I have plans on doing a weekly version of this when the LCS and LEC starts up next year, so keep your eyes out! About the dataThere were a total of 939,274 votes cast from 46,312 different users. For each person, they were given 25 matchups to vote on. Each team appears 2 or 3 times, weighted such that teams from NA, EU, KR, and CN did not face teams from other regions as often. Within each paring of teams there were between 1774 (Suning vs. Rainbow7) and 6563 (Fnatic vs. TSM) votes, giving a margin of error of +/- 2 points at most for each individual match. [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| The truth behind Jankos's stream shut down Posted: 16 Sep 2020 07:43 AM PDT
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| TSM REACTS To Worlds 2020 Group Draw! | League of Legends (LOL) Posted: 16 Sep 2020 07:00 AM PDT
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| Posted: 16 Sep 2020 12:46 AM PDT https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiBS9IUWAAA_Zud?format=png&name=small Looks like LPL teams might have underrated how strong hecarim is as a jungle pick, seeing as it didn't really get any play there. Just as with the other leaks though, take the results with a grain of salt, it's just 1 scrim game. The more interesting thing to look at with these leaks is the comps being played imo. so far renekton has not been doing too hot in these scrims. Maybe the pick will get exposed at worlds and ls will be proven right? [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Infographic - Patch 10.19 ADC-SUPPORT OPTIMAL SYNERGIES Posted: 16 Sep 2020 12:24 PM PDT
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| I feel like toxicity comes from "Expecting" a win, rather than "playing" to win. Posted: 16 Sep 2020 01:13 AM PDT If you expect a win in every game, then every loss will be devastating. If you play to give yourself the best chances of winning in the moment, you would be winning and losing at the same rate probably but your mental would be way better. I have an example because I have actually struggled with this myself. I have been permabanned before, not for racial slurs, or telling people the wrong stuff about mental health or anything like that, but for excessive typing in losing games. My playstyle was simple. Pick early game stompers, stomp early, and try to dictate your team to close out the game before you get outscaled. Ive lost so many games, where I did not feel like it was "my fault". This ended up in me searching up Op.gg's, banning peoples hovered champions if they had a negative winrate on it, just because I tried to ALWAYS win from champ select. Every game that started, in my head I have already won, but I have to play NOT to lose the game, which is like dragging a truck uphill alone. Meaning, you can do it if you are strong enough, but eventually its going to tear you down. Whenever you reach that breaking point, you start to look for reasons. You get stuck in this loop of "Im doing nothing wrong here. Im pulling this damn truck as hard as I can". You blame the car, the road, the tires, the air pressure, gravity etc etc but you dont realise that the breaks are on. You release the break, and it becomes so much easier. Its hard, but easier. Im a nice guy IRL. Never hurt someone, always lends a hand for anyone who needs help. Physical stuff and mental. But playing LoL with the mentality of "I have to win" turned me into something I am not. And I feel other people struggle with this too. Just mute people lol is not a concept that works for everyone. You dont solve something by cutting all ties with it. You have to find the source of the problem and patch it up. Then it solves itself. If you are out there and feel like this hits you. Stop expecting a win every game. Play in the moment, and stop thinking about rank, winrates and LP. None of it matters. I'll gladly be a happy D3 player with a good mental, than be unhappy and a toxic D1 player. Im capable of both. But I have chosen the happy one. [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Posted: 16 Sep 2020 03:15 AM PDT It seems that something changed today in how smurfs are handled in matchmaking. Look at the following accounts: https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Kepler+20e https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=indetect https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=SkullCracker1 https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=SkullCracker2 https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=birdless+tree https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Lil+Peep+fan2004 https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=napfish https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=KoreanBronce+V Specifically I want you to look at the "tier average at the bottom. This average has been reduced by several divisions seemingly overnight. My first thought is that it seems smurf accounts are now paired with and against other smurfs much more often. This explains why the average dips so low as the other smurfs in the game also have high MMR and low actual rank comparatively speaking. I think this is a great change. As someone who plays in D4-D3 elo, smurfs are so prevalent that it's honestly ruining my enjoyment in ranked. Usually because they either stomp the game or leave/soft-int when they get behind. Credit to /u/Mooshieeee for noticing. edit: Riot tweet: https://twitter.com/MarkYetter/status/1306258477745016832 [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Worlds 2020 Song/Animation dropping tomorrow (teased on Instagram) Posted: 16 Sep 2020 09:15 AM PDT
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| The Youngest Player in Each Role at Worlds 2020 Posted: 16 Sep 2020 04:16 AM PDT Top: SN Bin (2002-09-28 | 17 yrs old) Jungle: TSM Spica (2002-02-17 | 18 yrs old) Mid: DRX Chovy (2001-03-03 | 19 yrs old) Bot: MAD Carzzy (2002-1-31 | 18 yrs old) Support: DRX Keria (2002-10-14 | 17 yrs old) Kind of neat that all four major regions are represented. It seems very healthy that a new generation of players are slowly taking over the scene. Also can someone do the math on who the youngest team is? [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Tellstones: King’s Gambit | Tutorial Posted: 16 Sep 2020 09:03 AM PDT
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| The Liquid Update with Ovilee May - Worlds 2020 - Episode 1 Posted: 16 Sep 2020 11:30 AM PDT
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| Posted: 16 Sep 2020 03:14 AM PDT We all know how smurfing works in season 10. You play on new ranked account, after a few wins you already play against golds/platinums when you are bronze/silver. Well I think that it ends today, try to queue for a game on your silver account with platinum mmr: you will be surprised to see that after 5 minutes of queue you will match with TEN silver smurfs just like you. Is it a mistake? Is it a huge change? I guess we're about to find out. [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| nutty play with no r kata and vel were both fed btw Posted: 15 Sep 2020 09:03 PM PDT
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| Gen G reacts to Worlds group stage draw ! [ENG SUB] Posted: 16 Sep 2020 10:23 AM PDT
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| Wait...Ryze didn't get an out-of-nowhere buff on the Worlds patch... Posted: 16 Sep 2020 09:07 AM PDT This can't be right, right? Can we really call it the Worlds patch if Ryze didn't get an inexplicable, out-of-nowhere, buff that suddenly brings him back into the meta just in time for Worlds? Did they just forget to include it on the patch notes or something? All jokes aside, is this sort of unprecedented? I've only been around the scene for a few years, but I feel like it is a tradition that the blue man gets a buff on the Worlds patch [link] [comments] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| How do you kill Tahm Kench? Answer: You don't. Posted: 16 Sep 2020 03:34 AM PDT
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| I look forward to Worlds more than Christmas Posted: 16 Sep 2020 11:35 AM PDT ITS WORLDS BABY! - Quickshot I'm so hyped dudes. This is truly the best time of the year. We get to see hype plays from the best players on the world for a month. The content creation is through the roof, the discussions are lovely, there's massive upsets, great celebrations, and lots of fanfare. I need my pickems. Can't wait for the 25th. [link] [comments] |
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