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    League of Legends 2020 World Championship / Group Stage - Day 6 / Live Discussion

    League of Legends 2020 World Championship / Group Stage - Day 6 / Live Discussion


    2020 World Championship / Group Stage - Day 6 / Live Discussion

    Posted: 09 Oct 2020 12:00 AM PDT

    2020 WORLDS GROUP STAGE

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    All of Worlds will be played on Patch 10.19.


    Today's Matches

    # Match PST EST CET KST
    1 PSG vs DWG 1:00 AM 4:00 AM 10:00 17:00
    2 RGE vs JDG 2:00 AM 5:00 AM 11:00 18:00
    3 DWG vs RGE 3:00 AM 6:00 AM 12:00 19:00
    4 JDG vs PSG 4:00 AM 7:00 AM 13:00 20:00
    5 PSG vs RGE 5:00 AM 8:00 AM 14:00 21:00
    6 JDG vs DWG 6:00 AM 9:00 AM 15:00 22:00
    • All matches are Best of 1

    Streams

    Twitch YouTube LoL Esports Other Languages Comment Stream

    Teams

    Group A Group B
    # Team Region Record Information # Team Region Record Information
    1 Suning China 5 - 2 Leaguepedia // Twitter 1 DAMWON Gaming Korea 3 - 0 Leaguepedia // Twitter
    2 G2 Esports Europe 4 - 3 Leaguepedia // Twitter 2 JD Gaming China 2 - 1 Leaguepedia // Twitter
    3 Team Liquid North America 3 - 3 Leaguepedia // Twitter 3 Rogue Europe 1 - 2 Leaguepedia // Twitter
    4 Machi Esports PCS 1 - 5 Leaguepedia // Twitter 4 PSG Talon PCS 0 - 3 Leaguepedia // Twitter
    Group C Group D
    # Team Region Record Information # Team Region Record Information
    1 Gen.G Korea 2 - 1 Leaguepedia // Twitter 1 Top Esports China 3 - 0 Leaguepedia // Twitter
    1 Fnatic Europe 2 - 1 Leaguepedia // Twitter 2 DRX Korea 2 - 1 Leaguepedia // Twitter
    1 LGD Gaming China 2 - 1 Leaguepedia // Twitter 3 FlyQuest North America 1 - 2 Leaguepedia // Twitter
    4 TSM North America 0 - 3 Leaguepedia // Twitter 4 Unicorns of Love Europe 0 - 3 Leaguepedia // Twitter

    On-Air Team

    Trevor "Quickshot" Henry Aaron "Medic" Chamberlain Daniel "Drakos" Drakos Max "Atlus" Anderson David "Phreak" Turley
    Clayton "CaptainFlowers" Raines James "Dash" Patterson Indiana "Froskurinn" Black Andrew "Vedius" Day Christy "Ender" Frierson
    Marc "Caedrel" Lamont Nick "LS" de Cesare Jacob "YamatoCannon" Mebdi Issac "Azael" Cummings-Bentley Sam "Kobe" Hartman-Kenzler
    Barento "Razleplasm" Mohammed Jake "Spawn" Tiberi Yushuang "Candice" Duan Eefje "Sjokz" Depoortere Laure "Bulii" Valée

    Format

    Group Stage 16 teams participate Teams are drawn into four groups based on seeding Double Round Robin Matches are best of one Top two teams from each group advance to the Knockout Stage Knockout Stage Single elimination bracket (drawn randomly, 1st place teams face 2nd place teams, no two teams from the same group can be placed in the same half of the bracket) Matches are best of five 


    VoDs

    Reddit Eventvods.com LoL Esports

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    Best Bard i've ever seen.

    Posted: 09 Oct 2020 03:38 PM PDT

    New001 is Leaving Riot

    Posted: 09 Oct 2020 12:05 PM PDT

    /u/New001-, the Executive Vice President of League, is leaving Riot. He tweeted the news on his new Twitter. For those of you who don't know Joe, he was the Lead Producer on League for years and is the bald guy who was the face of all the Riot Pls videos before Safelocked took over.

    His post reads:

    To the League Community,

    After 7 incredible years working on League of Legends, it's time for me to try my hand at something new.

    It's been always been the highest honor to represent the dev team to you. Sure we've had our ups (10 year?) and downs (dynamic queue?), but I always knew I could count on you for the real talk-because you care. Thank you for all the memes, the support, the criticism, and, of course, playing.

    Since I'm leaving, I can say without being self-serving that everyone on the League dev team works incredibly hard on your behalf every day. Some you already know well-folks like Safelocked, Paladin and Meddler-who have been out in front communicating about all the amazing things being delivered for players. Next to them on the other end of the wire is a long list of great humans trying to do their best by you. You are in the best possible hands.

    Starting a new game studio from scratch is going to be a wild ride. I hope to make more games you care about enough to tell me how terrible I am at balancing them. If you want to lurk on the journey, follow me on Twitter @newzerozeroone (and help me figure out how this Twitter thing works).

    Don't be a stranger,

    New001/Good News Lee Sin/Audible Chocolate/Joe out

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    Insane item buying from DWG Canyon

    Posted: 09 Oct 2020 06:28 AM PDT

    If TSM makes it out of groups I will eat soap.

    Posted: 09 Oct 2020 05:03 PM PDT

    That is how little faith I have in them as a team right now even as a fan. They are the first seed and currently have done less than the third or second seed in terms of performance.

    With this in mind if they somehow make it out of groups I will eat soap. Depending on highest vote it will either be a bar or liquid. Will post video of me doing it on this sub.

    Bamboozle = banboozle

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    Shadowbox of Spirit Blossom Teemo skin / Handmade/ Full making is on my YouTube

    Posted: 09 Oct 2020 09:54 AM PDT

    Infographic - Worlds 2020 First 4 days group stage!

    Posted: 09 Oct 2020 05:40 AM PDT

    Suning's SofM: "If G2 prepared more carefully, they could have better results. Jankos has a very good ability to work with his team, much better than Broxah”

    Posted: 09 Oct 2020 06:54 AM PDT

    Even casters can't see player stats/stacks while casting because of bottom left stats window hidden by ADS

    Posted: 09 Oct 2020 05:14 AM PDT

    Just couple minutes ago Medic says "unfortunately we can't see how many stacks Senna has".

    Why this is even a thing? Why player stats window is blocked by ADS? I hope before quaterfinals this issue is fixed, because currently 2020 as a viewer I had the worst experience since S2 DDOS delays.

    Here how 2019 world's spectator UI looked like

    And here is 2020

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    Yamato: "The plan to win Worlds for G2 and LCK/LPL teams is different. At no point in time a team like TES says that we need to take it easy or rest to avoid burnout. The amount of effort that they put in is absolutely nuts"

    Posted: 09 Oct 2020 03:01 PM PDT

    Saw this in "Worlds After Dark EP.7 Ft. Drakos/Frosk (Groups Day 6)" podcast (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzSp9v1UkG8 around 24 minutes in) and found it very interesting.

    Many times we focus on talent difference or reads on meta but we forget the fact that eastern teams simply work harder, not just in the months before Worlds but whole year long.

    Yamato said that no team saw the LPL vs LCK mid season tournament as a time to rest, but as the chance to prove something. I remember how Rift Rivals was treated and the difference is pretty telling

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    Only 1.8% of Pick'Ems are perfect after two groups are completed

    Posted: 09 Oct 2020 06:31 AM PDT

    1.8% of all pick'ems are perfect, which translates to 59,307 players.

    Let's see how many are left after group C.

    I'm also perfect until tomorrow where unless there is a 3-way tie at 3-3 and TSM wins the bracket, I can kiss winning it all goodbye.

    https://i.imgur.com/NQKl11A.png

    EDIT: Adding the rank table - https://i.imgur.com/HpLLxSd.png

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    PSG Talon vs. Rogue / 2020 World Championship - Group B / Post-Match Discussion

    Posted: 09 Oct 2020 05:20 AM PDT

    WORLDS 2020 GROUP STAGE

    Official page | Leaguepedia | Liquipedia | Live Discussion | Eventvods.com | New to LoL


    PSG Talon 1-0 Rogue

    PSG | Leaguepedia | Liquipedia | Website | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube
    RGE | Leaguepedia) | Liquipedia | Discord | Website | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube


    MATCH 1: PSG vs. RGE

    Winner: PSG Talon in 30m
    Player of the game: Tank | Match History | Runes

    Bans 1 Bans 2 G K T D/B
    PSG hecarim nidalee shen pantheon sett 56.6k 13 9 C1 I3 M4 H5 B7 M8
    RGE twisted fate lucian caitlyn twitch alistar 47.5k 4 3 H2 M6
    PSG 13-4-34 vs 4-13-8 RGE
    Hanabi ornn 1 1-2-7 TOP 1-5-1 2 irelia Finn
    River graves 2 4-2-6 JNG 2-2-1 1 lillia Inspired
    Tank syndra 2 3-0-6 MID 1-1-2 1 orianna Larssen
    Unified aphelios 3 4-0-6 BOT 0-3-3 3 senna Hans sama
    Kaiwing thresh 3 1-0-9 SUP 0-2-1 4 braum Vander

    This thread was created by the Post-Match Team.

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    JDG vs DWG Post game discussion

    Posted: 09 Oct 2020 06:25 AM PDT

    JDG 1-0 DWG I can't see a post discussion made, anyways

    zoom daddy?

    so glad to see him show up and make dwg bleed. @ the people who were saying JDG was not a S tier team lol

    ok ggwp cant wait for group c

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    Impossible mission to complete (clash)

    Posted: 09 Oct 2020 01:33 PM PDT

    Impossible mission to complete (clash)

    So, this mission popped up on my missions screen, so far so good with one little problem. I work on weekends and for me (and for many others) its impossible to complete this mission, I haven't even played clash before because of real life dutties. The thing is, I understand that riot wants to incentivise people to play clash and all, but an alternative would be good assuming that other missions have alternatives for example the ones where you had to play with a certain champion OR play 5 games.

    Thank you

    https://preview.redd.it/6xgmrkoiq4s51.png?width=352&format=png&auto=webp&s=d5ea33b5c8c297ee91847d908e11bdff89ed0bb8

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    Chinese reactions to Worlds Day 6 WITHOUT BIAS

    Posted: 09 Oct 2020 12:39 PM PDT

    I have never made a post like this before but I see some individuals on this sub reddit like to post Chinese reactions that are overwhelmingly negative which do not give a fair nor full representation of Chinese fans so here is my take.

    DAY 6 OVERVIEW: https://bbs.hupu.com/38464597.html

    其实你们拿第二名无所谓的 主要是输给psg 搞心态了

    Actually getting 2nd seed does not matter, it's mainly that you lost to PSG that makes us sad.

    所以输给psg是?理解为故意?两把完全不同水平的比赛

    So I understand losing to PSG is on purpose? The last two matches you played were of completely different levels

    直接说sn小心吧,京东就是要干苏宁的,东哥下的死命令。不仅仅是游戏层面

    Reply : 企业级理解

    Reply: 东哥有一手的,我家这边苏宁店铺旁边全是京东广告。。

    Let's just say be careful Suning, JingDong did this on purpose just so they can fight you, brother Dong has sentenced you to death, not only at the gaming level. (Suning and JD are competing E-commerce company in China, they are joking JDG threw and came second just to take Suning down)

    Reply: This is some entrepreneur level of understanding

    Reply: Brother Dong really got something up their sleeves, the Suning shops next to my house all got JD advertisement next to them ...

    LVMAO APOLOGY: https://bbs.hupu.com/38465010.html https://weibo.com/2492568844/JoqPWiiFF

    LvMao: 我是队长 冲我 对不起 ​​​​

    LvMao: I'm the team captain, flame me, sorry!

    Kanavi : 冲lvmao

    LvMao : 你外卖没了

    Kanavi replies "Let's flame LvMao!" and LvMao replies "Your food take-out is gone"

    别这样 别对不起 还没结束

    Don't say this, don't say you are sorry, the tournament isn't over yet!

    对不起个锤子 给那些喷子脸了?一群狗叫罢了

    Sorry for what? Those flamers got face to flame? Just a bunch of dogs howling.

    别尬黑,京东是故意输的,为的就是让lgd洗白,还记得当初lgd洗白的两个办法吗,lgd拿冠军,两个外卡打决赛,现在两个外卡已经没了,京东一看lgd要洗白就只能拿冠军了,那样又太难了,就果断控分小组第二出线,并且希望lgd也小组第二出线,然后让lgd八强把dwg愉悦送走,成功洗白lgd,这波京东在大气层

    Don't flame, JD lost on purpose, to help LGD redeem themselves. Remember when LGD only had two options for redemption? Either they win the championship or the two wildcards are in finals. Now the wildcards are gone, the only way to save them is for LGD to win the whole thing but that is too hard as well. So we throw and get out second seed and hope LGD does the same, then LGD can send DWG home in quarterfinals and successfully redeem themselves. JDG's IQ is atmosphere level high.

    G2: Can't wait to beat Damwon in Quarters: https://bbs.hupu.com/38465688.html

    G2:每年刀一个LCK八强种子

    G2 assasinates one LCK quarterfinalist every year.

    你G2能摇到大乌龟还给他们淘汰了以后就是LPL5号种子了!

    Reply: 就5号?!我愿封他们为荣誉1号种子!!!

    If G2 can get DWG and eliminate them, afterwards they are LPL 5th seed!

    Reply: Only 5th seed?! I say they are Honorary first seed!!!

    JDG 1-0 DWG reactions: https://bbs.hupu.com/38464231.html

    这局本来应该是小组头名之争的 搞成这样 没劲了

    Reply: 确实嬴了过后感觉内心毫无波动

    This should've been the tiebreaker deciding game for groups but now it's boring

    Reply: Indeed after winning I felt nothing

    抽签的给力点,不内战一切好说

    Whoever rolls the matchups for quarterfinals please bless us, as long as there is no civil war everything is fine

    记得这跟夺冠了一样…

    Remember (the caster) is casting the match as if we won the championship...

    DWG不是无敌的!!!恭喜JDG小组赛正面击败了DWG!

    DWG is not invincible!!! Congrats to JDG for winning against them head on!

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    LvMao's pixel perfect Bard R to save Yagao

    Posted: 09 Oct 2020 06:46 AM PDT

    Made a video on Qiyana after realizing she exists and actually hits like a truck

    Posted: 09 Oct 2020 05:05 AM PDT

    Interview w/ G2 Mikyx on potentially facing TOP Esports: "I think I wouldn’t mind playing TOP Esports. They weren’t a team that gave us that much trouble, in scrims at least. They don’t look unstoppable."

    Posted: 09 Oct 2020 03:16 PM PDT

    Finn reflects on Rogue's matches, speaks candidly about receiving criticism: "Of course, it’s gonna hurt. (...) I did have a lot of questionable moments this Split. I’m not going shy away from that. (...) I played against the best top laners in the world, and it has been very helpful for me."

    Posted: 09 Oct 2020 11:58 AM PDT

    What if League brought back 1v1 but in a TFT lobby-style ranked format?

    Posted: 09 Oct 2020 02:11 AM PDT

    Now I'm sure I'm not the only person to think of this, but I remember when people were asking for a 1v1 mode and it only happened briefly. It seemed like it was mainly prohibited by loading times not really being worth it, and lack of ranked. The meta stagnated to the same few champs and then the idea never really got revisited as something that could be improved/built upon. Or maybe it did and I'm out of the loop.

    I love the Teamfight Tactics game mode and I was thinking about how cool it could be to create a lobby-style ranked 1v1, maybe with a pick/ban phase or even a carousel style pick phase that lets you re-choose your champ each time based on your health. I'm sure there's a unique way to do it that I haven't thought of but it's fun to think about, and I feel like there's a possibility for a new 1v1 meta if it's done correctly. Just wanted to bounce ideas around and see if anyone else had discussed this before.

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    If Samira didn't have a knock up on her passive she'd be balanced

    Posted: 09 Oct 2020 08:38 AM PDT

    I feel like this is what makes her so oppressive in lane when paired with CC makes her kill combo too hard to avoid

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    LS: Faker still has the best mechanics

    Posted: 09 Oct 2020 03:33 AM PDT

    To those of you who "boost" your team in ARAM, thank you!

    Posted: 09 Oct 2020 03:09 PM PDT

    That's it, I just wanted to say thinks to all you kind people who spend their money to give me and all our teammates skins for a 20 min(ish) match

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    Korea's reactions to Worlds 2020 Group Stage Day 6

    Posted: 09 Oct 2020 06:49 AM PDT

    Hey everyone, I skipped yesterday because I couldn't find much of what I wanted, but I'm back for today. Enjoy, and see you tomorrow.

    Sources: http://www.inven.co.kr/board/lol/4625

    PSG vs DWG

    담원전 개꿀빠는 새끼 직캠… 이새끼 하는일이 뭐노 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

    이새끼는 미니언이라도 만들지 앞에서 쳐 자는 타워 2개 안보임?

    I found the biggest scammer in Damwon games: DWG Nexus. Literally doesn't do anything all game.

    At least it makes minions do you not see the two towers in front sleeping?

    으 담원경기 노잼 지고 있어도 질것같지가 않아 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

    Ugh Damwon games are so unfun to watch. Even if they're losing it doesn't feel at all like they'd lose.

    좀 자다가 징동 담원볼까?

    Should I just sleep til JDG vs DWG?

    갱플은 티어어디임?

    What rank is the GP?

    오른 시이발 저게 말이 되는 탱킹이냐? 너프해 시발

    Fuuuck Ornn how does that champ make sense? Nerf it, fuck.

    ROG vs JDG

    LEC 4장은 ㄹㅇ투머치다ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

    Okay maybe 4 seeds for LEC is too much LOL

    그냥 오늘 경기는 다 재미 없을만함 킹황투 님이 없으신데 어떻게 재미있냐

    Today's matches won't be too fun to watch. King2 isn't playing today.

    LEC는 2부리그가 아니다 G2가 2부리그인것

    LEC isn't the second best league. G2 is.

    오리 1AP조합에서 향로성배는 대체 뭔템트리냐

    What kind of a build is Athene's Ardent in a 1 AP comp

    오리아나 템트리가 kda충들이랑 다를게없음

    That Orianna build is a KDA player build

    오리아나 그렇게잘크고간다는템이 성배향로;; 이해불가네 진짜

    Why did Orianna build Athene's Ardent when she's so ahead;; I really can't understand.

    저럴거면 카르마를 하지

    Why not just play Karma at that point

    그브 존나 못하네 진짜 팀이 이득 봐두면 그브가 다 던지네

    Graves is so bad. He's throwing all the lead his team got.

    ROG vs DWG

    라인스왑은 로그가 했는데 왜 담원이 이득이냐?

    Rogue are the ones who lane swapped but why is Damwon getting ahead?

    라이즈궁+사이온Q 하려고 뽑은거냐 ㅋㅋㅋ 개그하고있네 ㅋㅋ

    Did they draft Ryze and Sion to do the Ryze R + Sion Q combo LOL they're trolling.

    진짜 재미도르는 쟤네를 이길순없다

    No other league can beat LEC in being funny

    걍 서렌쳐라 로그 시간 아깝다

    Just ff Rogue this is a waste of time.

    JDG vs PSG

    psg psg psg psg!!!

    psg psg psg psg!!!

    이게 무슨일이니????

    Wait what just happened????

    타이완 넘버원!!

    Taiwan numba one!!

    북미보다... 강할지도?

    Are they… better than NA?

    PSG 이번 롤드컵에서 얻어가는거 많은듯 담원 상대로 역전패도르 30분넘겼도르 징동 상대로 26분컷

    PSG is taking a lot from this Worlds. They lasted 30 mins vs Damwon and beat JDG in 26.

    PSG vs ROG

    로그 딜 누가 담당함????? 오른 누가 때려잡냐?????

    Who does damage in the Rogue team comp? Who kills Ornn?

    시발 승부의신 망함 PSG.... 네놈들의 이름을 잊지않겠다...

    Ah my pickems are fucked. PSG… I won't forget your name…

    저딴리그에 4시드를주네

    That league gets 4 seeds

    PSG는 진짜 멋지게 퇴장하네.... 멋진팀으로 오래오래 기억될 듯..

    PSG is having a grand exit… They will be remembered as a cool team..

    로그는 진짜 운이 없었던거지 조에 북미 한팀만 있었어도

    Rogue is just unlucky. If there was an NA team in the group..

    psg조를 잘못만났네 ㅜㅠ c조였으면 1위먹었을지도 모르겠는걸

    PSG got the wrong group. If they were Group C maybe they could've come out first place.

    내일 보면 안다 TSM은 세계를 놀라게 할것이다3승 3패 조2위 8강 진출한다

    내가 아는 TSM이면 3승 3패를 한다고 해도 재경기 가서 떨어짐. 원래 북미는 그런 재미가 있음. ㅋㅋㅋ

    You will see tomorrow. TSM will shock the world. 3-3 second place in the group.

    If it's the TSM I know even if they win 3 games they'll lose the tiebreaker. That's just NA.

    JDG vs DWG

    담원 우승 할 것 같다

    Looks like Damwon will win Worlds.

    징동도 잘하긴잘하네 한타를 정교하게 잘함

    JDG is good too their teamfighting is precise.

    담원이니깐 이 정도 한거다 만약 짬지나 듀렉스였으면 1557 나왔다

    They did that well because they're Damwon. If it were GenG or DRX we would've gotten another 1557.

    진짜 타팬인데도 방금전경기로 담원한테 반할것같음 ㅋㅋㅋ 징동24분컷 경기보다 난 이번 경기에서의 경이로운 싸움각이 더 멋졌음

    I'm not a Damwon fan but that game just might make me one. How well they played the teamfights is amazing.

    져도 되긴한데 쇼메가 영 이상햇던게 걱정이..

    It's okay that they lost but how Showmaker looked worries me..

    쇼메이커 갈리오는 봉인하는게 맞는듯

    쇼매자체가 피지컬챔 좋아하는데 페이커같이 5연갈하겟니

    I think we have to seal Showmaker's Galio.

    He likes carry champs to begin with. He won't play Galio 5 times in a row like Faker.

    이제 전승우승 가능한팀은 TES형뿐

    Now the only team that can have a perfect run at Worlds is big brother TES.

    담원 넥서스 터지는거 쿨타임 3달이라고? 다음에 터지는건 케스파컵이라네...

    Damwon's nexus explosion cooldown is 3 months? The next time would be at Kespa…

    믿는다 트슴

    I believe in you TSM.

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    LS & Crownshot on Why DWG is so dominant and will win worlds, League and Metas, Players/Teams falling off, why Faker is insane, Mechanics and Pro view, Comparing Faker and Knights Mechanics

    Posted: 09 Oct 2020 04:36 AM PDT

    LS & Crownshot have a great discussion on a lot of interesting topics that I think are worth sharing. Talk about why Damwon is so insane and will win worlds, why League of Legends is so defined by the meta and certain teams and players have certain metas they shine in, and discuss why Faker is so insane and has the best mechanics of any player. Also discuss a bit about Showmaker/Chovy and Knight in comparison to Faker mostly. Link to Vod with time stamp for this discussion at the end.

    Crownshot: I am really curious why Damwon is so dominant you know

    LS: Here is what I think, you know how scrim results are always different than stage, I think a lot of that is because teams on stage play naturally more reserved.... but I think what happens on stage is people take very safe approaches to laning phase and safe options, but doesn't mean these options aren't abusable. Damwon plays in a way to actively seek and punish these safe plays, which leads to a lot of these games where they get big leads and nothing happens. You can get big leads without anything happening by just out greed the opponent or by punishing over safety. But that is a very trained thing, it isn't like damwon is mind controlling rogue or anything how do they do that

    Crownshot: I mean, I think they have best mid laner in the world, probably.

    LS: Showmaker? Yea I think showmaker is probably the best.

    Crownshot: Ya, and then you have a bottom lane that plays fine by themselves, which perfectly fits the meta right now. And top laner is probably top 2 or 3.

    LS: Ya he is probably top 3 in the world

    Crownshot: And they play really well around the jungle. This meta is too good for them.

    LS: The meta is perfect for them, the way ghost plays, literally the stars aligned

    Crownshot: The way ghost plays is perfect for 2020, completely fits them.

    LS: And the way beryl plays, very good for them. This is really like stars are aligning for Damwon.

    Crownshot: I have a theory or discussion point. It's very impressive Faker managed to win multiple champions and no other player could, 2018 specific meta IG won, meta changes they don't, 2019 FPX meta changes they don't even make worlds, is this just how it works? Certain players have certain metas"

    LS: I mean obviously Showmaker and Chovy are insane and can probably play anything, but Faker would still make overall better decidions

    LS: Faker holistically still has the best awareness of what's going on, regardless of if he successfully punishes or not. The thing about Faker is that even though people rate him lower than Showmaker Chovy, and others right now, I don't think it has to be that way. I still think he has the best mechanics out of all the mids when you watch his proview.

    Crownshot: Mechanics?

    LS: Ya he has the best mechanics for sur

    Crownshot: What do you think they do better than him at the moment, laning?

    LS: Ya, laning decisions, and Fakers probably juggling a lot more because he has way more weight on him than they do in the games. I don't think Faker is done by any means...

    Crownshot: It's very impressive he has the best mechanics still after so much

    LS: Yeah he's sick

    Crownshot: He is the only player that managed to win so much with metas changing. FPX stomp, then meta changes and don't make worlds, same thing for IG, that is the thing with league the meta changes and you can't predict if a team or player will be as good as last year, it's very specific to league.

    LS: Guy in chat says "Knight's POV (mechanics) looks better than Fakers" no pro player would agree with you. Just because it looks nicer to watch doesn't mean it is better, in fact it is probably the opposite.

    Talk from 2:43:00 to 2:49:00

    Link: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/765024788

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